Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Hi Tor's Sylvan Glen

Below you will find my recent post of Hi Tor's Sylvan Glen to http://www.motherearthprayers.org/

Hi Tor's Sylvan GlenHi Tor (Naples), NY
One of the many places of Prayer in Upstate NY.

If you are a pilgrim looking to experience and see a Spirit Keeper's site first hand and desiring to experience a beautifully forested glen, you should go to Hi Tor State Forest. The Finger Lakes Trail (FLT) descends from Parish Hill in Hi Tor State Forest crosses several well-preserved Spirit Keepers sites. It is also a very good representation of the sylvan glens so common to the Finger Lakes Area—hemlock forests, waterfalls and ridged trails that offer spectacular overlooks.

Pilgrims JourneyYou will follow the FLT west of where it crosses Downey Road as it dips for a stream. Look for a trail registry just west of the intersection. Downey Road is a dirt road and much of it is closed and damaged by rain water. You will be walking on the south side of the stream.
continue for another 50-75 yards. The trail rises 20-30 feet and then dips several feet. It appears that trail work is going on to make stone stairs for the dip. On your right you will see a large stone and a stand of hemlock trees by the stream. Get off trail and walk along the stream bank.
This is a very powerful stacked field of consciousness. You will notice several large stones that appear to be aligned in a straight line. Look at the picture above on the right. You will see that a pad is placed on the closest stone, then the dogs are on the next one and behind the dogs you will see another stone. Each one of these stones was place on place of consciousness by the Spirit Keepers. This is one of their classic formations. Notice several low lying piles of stacked stones(one is pictured on the left)—they are the remnants of sacred mounds that are thousands of years old. Notice all the stones and no apparent streambed or runoff that may have created them. They do not look spectacular--neatly stacked, high or ornate--but remember they were placed there thousands of years ago. Fortunately there were no farmers close by that decided to use them to build a stone fence.
This area is wonderful. Pick a spot where you feel called to and pray, contemplate or meditate. You may want to sit on one of the flat stones or a mound. Whatever you pick will be fine because there are so many fields upon each other and the prayers and intentions of those that came before still linger.
While the stone piles are far from visually inspiring, relatively speaking, they are in good shape. We have to remember that they are thousands of years old. Decay and movement take their toll.
When you are finished get back on the trail and continue walking. You will not have to walk far before the trail turns right, away from the stream. Continue walking straight and go off the trail. You will climb an embankment where another stream runs into the main stream. There are two large stones marking two sacred sites.
Descend the embankment to the other side. There you will find two other large stones marking two sacred sites(pictured below on the right). These two sites or the two on the other side would be great places to meditate.

Before you reconnect with the trail, the ridge will jut north towards the stream. At the high point of the ridge you will find a stone marking a sacred site that overlooks the stream.
Walk down along this ridgeline as it descends to the stream. Just before you get to the stream there is a small rise, a bluff not more than 10 feet high that contains a sacred site marked with a stone. A great place for ceremony and meditation, especially when the water is running fast.

TrailThere are several more sacred sites found along the trail, although they do get sparse.
If you are up to it I would recommend a walk along the trail. I walked a little over a mile and found that while the stream descended, the trail did not decline much in elevation. It offered spectacular ridge views in beautiful sylvan forests.

Finding Hi Tor's Sylvan GlenYou can access the FLT and Hi Tor’s sylvan glen at Donley Rd in Italy NY. I would suggest taking Parish Hill road off of Rte 245 just north of Naples (southern end Canandaigua Lake). Take a right onto Shay road and keep going uphill. Take a right onto Donley at the top. Donley will eventually end and you will have to park (look for designated area just north of last house) then walk about a quarter of a mile to get to the FLT.
You can also access Donley off of Brink hill Rd. near the town of Italy. The map will not show Donley road going to Brink Hill Rd. because that stretch has been closed up for years. You will see a parking spot on the western side of the road that I believe will have FLT markers. This access point may be a little friendlier in the winter time; at least I think so.
You may wish to read a New York Times' article on Bare Hill and nearby Clark’s Gully Canandaigua Lake, N.Y.: Of Indian Legends and Sylvan Trails.
For a Blog about Clarks Gully and the Hi Tor area click on. Hi-Tor Stone Monuments.
For a picture show of Clarks Gully click on: Lower Clarks Gully--NY State Waterfalls
For more information call the NY DEC at 607-776-2165 or NY ranger Dormer at 585-374-9730 if you have more questions.
I would suggest a visit to Bare Hill up the road less than ten miles away. As well as Clarks Gully and Upper Clarks Gully, South Hill in the valley below.

PS. I would appreciate information on other stone formations in the High Tor area.

Monday, November 26, 2007



I found nothing of particular note at survey of OCC (Onondaga Community college) last week. There were a few Native American Sacred sites and some fields of consciousness. The vibe, or geographic samskara http://www.jubileeinitiative.org/Samskaras.html of the campuse was uniformly negative.

There might be places that I missed. There could also be places that a profoundly spiritual for some folks in the area. I will gladly go back and re-examine but need more specifics.


Monday, November 19, 2007

Sacred Places, St. Marys

US News and World report has an excellent series of articles out this week about sacred places that people may be interested in reading: http://www.usnews.com/features/news/sacred-places/sacred-places.html

I had a chance to visit St. Marys Roman Catholic in Jamesville (SE suburb of Syracuse) over the weekend. I found one native sacred site within the church. It is located at the front of the church on the right hand side (if you face the altar) at the chancel where the first pew begins. There were spirit (ley) lines, but no Fields of consciousness http://www.jubileeinitiative.org/Gaiassoul2.html Nice place but nothing outstanding, so I will not be writing it up.

Kudos to all those vigilers standing tall to keep the church open. They were just featured in Dick Case's column in the Post Standard. Read--Refusing to Let Church Die-- http://www.syracuse.com/articles/case/index.ssf?/base/news-0/119538004989900.xml&coll=1

Friday, November 16, 2007

Survey and links

I will try and get to St. Mary's in Jamesville and the OCC area in the next week to do a survey.

Here are a few links some of you asked about:

Samskaras: http://www.jubileeinitiative.org/Samskaras.html

North England Antiquities Research Association (NEARA) has pictures and articles about rock formations, stone chambers, etc. in New England: http://www.neara.org/

American Society of Dowsers (ASD); information on dowsing, listing of dowsers, good place to buy dowsing (L) rods, artcles, etc.: http://www.dowsers.org/

Sig Lonegren well known for his knowledge of earth phenomena has a great book on learning how to dowse, Spiritual Dowsing, that can be accessed online for free: http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/spiritualdowsing.html

Rock Piles is a blog about rock formations--cairns, chambers, formations, fences, etc...in the North Eastern USA: http://rockpiles.blogspot.com/

Tuesday, November 13, 2007


Today's talk at Natur-tyme convinced me that I need to create a blog so that people would have timely information about places of prayers in upstate ny and be able to provide input.

So here we go.